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forces of any kind will be there after that date. i'm jake tapper at the white house. we begin with breaking news. we just listened to 911 recordings. unlike anything we've ever heard before. they tyke you inside that elementary school in georgia when a gunman was holed up with 500-rounds of ammunition. the shooter, a deeply disturbed individual with nothing he says to lose. i want you to hear miss tuff describe what was at stake. >> he actually tried to go out the door where the kids was and i called him back to keep him calm and stay inside with me. >> why did you do that?
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>> because i knew if he got outside, he was start shooting the kids. he already shot a round off inside with me. so he was unstable enough to shoot at everybody. >> that's what might have happened. the moment by moment audio account of how a tragedy was prevented in no small part due to that woman. martin, these 911 calls, which have just been released, take you inside this hostage situation in a way i've never heard before. >> reporter: oh, yeah. you would have to give her a medal, because she's a one-person crisis management team, and she's essentially a bookkeeper for the elementary school located behind me. this happened about 1:00 yesterday, when the gunman you described, 20-year-old michael hill, comes into the building, gets in somehow and he has an
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ak-47 and almost 500 rounds of ammunition. this easily could have been easily another potential sandy hook. then he confronts antoinette. this is her on the phone to 911 and to the gunman at the same time. listen. >> yes, ma'am. i'm on 2nd avenue in the school and the gentleman said hold down the police officers are coming. he's going to start shooting. tell them to back off. >> okay, one moment. >> do not let anybody in the building, including the police. do not let anybody in the building, including the police. >> okay. stay on the line with me, ma'am. where are you? >> i'm in the front office. he just went outside and started shooting. [ gunfire ] can i run? >> can you get somewhere safe? >> yeah, i've got to go. no, he's going to see me
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running. he's coming back. hold on. >> put the phone down. >> okay. she said that she's getting a policeman to tell them to back off for you, okay? >> tell them to stop bothering me. >> okay, okay. stop all movement now on the ground, stop all movement on the ground. if it's not an emergency, please do not use the radio. if it's not an emergency, do not use the radio. >> are you talking to the shooter? >> that's somewhat he's telling me to tell them on the radio. what did you want me to tell her, sir? [ bleep ] he's telling me to call the
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news, ma'am. >> okay. >> what do you want me to tell -- i'm trying to find the number for channel 2. >> hello? >> yes, ma'am. >> police? he said tell them to back up right now. >> okay. >> okay, hold on. >> okay. >> hello? >> ma'am? >> okay, he said -- he said to tell them to back off. he doesn't want the kids, he wants the police, so back off and what else, sir? he said he don't care if he die, he don't have nothing to live for. he said he's not mentally stable. >> okay, stay on the line with me, okay? put the phone down if you have to, but don't put it on hold so
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i can't hear. >> okay. >> can you tell me where you are? >> in the front office with him. >> okay. >> he said send in one of your radios with an unarmed officer. >> okay. >> she said okay, she's getting ready to tell them. so he can talk to the police. he said, if they come armed, he's going to start shooting again. only one officer. >> okay. >> he said if you have to evacuate them homes right there in front of the building. >> okay. ask him if he's willing to give his name? >> she said, are you willing to give your name? he said no. >> okay.
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>> he said no, he knows that if he gives his name, he's going away for a long time. he said he knows he's going away for a long time. he's on probation. tell them to stand down now. tell them to stand down now he said. >> okay, tell him i'm giving them the instructions. >> she said she's giving the instructions. he said he should just shoot hisself. he said, call the probation office in dekalb county and let them know what's going on. >> okay. who are we asking for? >> she said, who is she asking for? he said he thinks it's officer scott. >> okay.
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>> you want me to let her get by? >> hello? >> yes? >> yes, i'm here. >> you want me to tell her to let her come, sir? she said she loves you a lot. >> you're on the phone with a relative? >> yes. what you say, sir? he said he should have just went to the mental hospital instead of doing this, because he's not on his medication. >> okay. >> do you want me to try -- i can help you. you want to talk to them, you want me to talk to them? okay, let me talk to them and let's see if we can work it out so you don't have to go away
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with them for a long time. no, it does matter. i can let them know that you have not tried to harm me or do anything with me. that doesn't make any difference. you didn't hit anybody. let me ask you this, ma'am. he didn't hit anybody, he just shot outside the door. if i walk out there with him, if i walk out there with him so they won't shoot him or anything like that, he wants to give himself up, is that okay? and they won't shoot him? >> yes, ma'am. >> he said he just want to go to the hospital. >> okay. hold on one moment. >> she said hold on, she's going to talk to the police officer and i'll go out there with you. don't feel bad, baby. my husband just left me after 33 years. yes, you do. i'm sitting here with you and talking to you about it.
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i've got a son that's disabled. can i speak to her? let me talk to her and let them know i'm going to go with you. you want me to talk to her? no, you didn't, baby. it's all going to be well. the lady is going to talk to the police. okay, hold on, hold on a second, okay? >> okay, don't hang up the phone. >> he wants me to go over here to the intercom, so hold on. wait a minute. can you talk to the police and let them know i'm going to walk out there with them and he wants to give himself up. >> okay, i am. let me get the okay from them. >> you let me know what we need to do. he wants me to go on the intercom and let everybody know he's sorry. >> okay. >> hold on. ma'am? >> yes, ma'am. >> he's going to come on now,
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but he wants to know what do you want him to do with the gun? or do you want to send a police officer in? he said he'll be on the ground with his hands behind his back and i'll take the gun and put it over here by me. >> okay, one moment. >> here, put all that over here on this -- okay. put it all up there. okay. >> he put the weapons down? >> yes. hold on before you come. he's putting everything down. >> okay. >> he's going to get on the floor, so tell them to hold on a minute. let him get everything together. he's getting it all together. okay. tell me when you're ready and i'll tell them to come on in. okay, he wants to drink his bottle of water. let him get it together.
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did you want me to call somebody to talk to somebody for you? we're not going to hate you, baby. it's a good thing that you're giving up. so we're not going to hate you. >> ma'am, you're doing a great job. >> so let's do it before the helicopters and stuff like that come. you hear them? okay. do you want me to tell them to come on in? he's getting everything out of his pockets now. he knows the whole story about the gun and he'll let you all know that. do you all want him to take his belt off? >> that's fine, just take all the weapons off. >> she said that's fine, just take all the weapons off. he said he don't have no more weapons. >> okay. >> he's on the ground now with
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his hand s behind the back. tell the officers not to come in shooting and i'll buzz them in. >> okay. >> hold on, just sit right there, and i'm going to buzz them in so you'll know when they're coming, okay? okay. just stay there calm. don't worry about it. i'm going to sit right here so they'll see that you're not trying to harm me, okay? okay. >> okay. >> it's going to be all right, sweet heart. i just want you to know i love you and i'm proud of you. that's a good thing of you just giving up. we all go through something in life. no, you don't want that. you're going to be okay. >> extraordinarily heroic effort there. i want to bring in a forensic psychologist chris mahandy and psychologist jeff gardere. talking to the operator at the same time talking to this
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doneman. >> she did an excellent job serving almost as an intermediary. she stayed calm, she conveyed to him that somebody does care. she did everything we would suggest. we see hostages stepping up to the plate doing what they need to do to survive and she did even more than that. it was an exceptional piece of human connection that she did and exactly what we would want a hostage victim to do to enhance their survivalability in a situation like this. >> that's only part one of the tape. there's more on the other side of this. but jeff gardere, her willingness to reveal personal details about herself to connect with this man and make him feel better. >> that's how she was able to draw him in and get that connection, by talking about some of the challenges that she had in her own life so it's not just about talking the talk, but it's also about walking the walk with him.
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and so that gave a lot of credibility to what she was doing with him. now he was able to believe her and connect with her. >> we're going to take a quick break. when we come back, we'll have more of this tape. you'll hear somewhat happens when police finally come in. we'll be right back. i think farmers care more about the land than probably anyone else. we've had this farm for 30 years. we raise black and red angus cattle. we also produce natural gas. that's how we make our living and that's how we can pass the land and water back to future generations. people should make up their own mind what's best for them. all i can say is it has worked well for us.
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welcome back. we're back with breaking news, the 911 tape that's been released recording the tense moments, to say the least, as a 911 dispatcher and school bookkeeper antoinette tuff talk a would be killer down from what would be a deadly rampage. listen now to the rest of the tape. what happened so far is antoinette tuff is talking to the 911 operator and talking to
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the gunman. saying the police need to stand back. he's not there to shoot children but he's there to shoot accomplish. he said he wishes he had went to a mental hospital instead and antoinette tuff who remains calm, begins to trying to relate to him on a very personal level. explaining things that have gone on recently in her own life that have been very difficult for her. drama in her own life as a way of making a connection to this potential killer. this is what -- where we left off with the tape. >> it's going to be all right, sweetie. i want you to know i love you. okay? i'm proud of you. that's a good thing you're giving up and don't worry about it. we all go through something in life. no, you don't want that. you going to be okay. i thought the same thing, you know, i tried to commit suicide last year after my husband left me? but look at me now. i'm still working and everything
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is okay. your name is michael what? michael hill? when the weather in the harbor? the people came in the harbor and planted a gun? oh, the drum from in the harbor? oh, okay. so you came with the kids that play the drums in the harbor? oh, for real? so you was actually in there doing all of that with them? oh, how awesome. so that means -- i seen -- so that means i seen you before then. oh, okay. y'all play them drums and stuff real good. okay. he said that they can come on in now. he needs to go to the hospital. >> okay. >> and he doesn't have any
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weapons on him or anything like that. he's laying on the floor, and he doesn't have any weapons. he's got everything out of his pocket. there is no -- the only thing he has on is his belt. everything is out of his pockets sitting here on the counter. i'm going to buzz them in so he'll know they're here and they can come in here and get him and take him to the hospital. >> okay. one moment. >> okay. >> yes, she says she'll let them know. she's talking to them now. to come on in and take you to the hospital. okay? no, you stay right there. you fine. he said do you want him to go out there with his hands up -- >> stay right where he is. >> she said stay right there where you are. he wants to know can he get some of his water right quick? yes, michael. you said michael hill, right? guess what michael, my last name is hill, too.
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my mom was a hill. he said what are y'all waiting for? what's taking them so long to come on? >> okay. one moment. >> she's getting to them now. they are coming. they are coming. so just hold on, michael. go ahead and lay down. go ahead and lay down. don't put your phone -- okay. you just got your phone? okay. that's fine. tell them to come on. come on. okay. he just got his phone. that's all he got is his phone. it's just him. okay. it's just him. >> hello? yes. >> let me tell you something, baby, i ain't never been so scared in all the days of my life. >> me, either. but you did great. >> oh, jesus. >> you did great. >> oh, god.
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>> extraordinary woman, antoinette tuff the bookkeeper of that school. on the story, martin savidge and it's great to have you all here. martin, what do we know about antoinette? how long has she been at the school? has she been publicly recognized for the heroic work that she did? >> reporter: today we knew she did something extraordinary but until this moment when we heard the 911 call did we really know what a remarkable person she is. this goes beyond hero. it was emotional to hear that. this is a woman you can tell she isn't bartering for her own life here. she actually cares about this young man despite the fact he has an ak-47 and 500 rounds of ammunition and in a school with hundreds of children. she's genuinely concerned about him. that's what comes across so strongly here. one person caring for another despite the fact this person is
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armed with a gun. >> you know, often in the news we're told we don't report on positive stories enough, that's a reason we wanted to bring you the words of antoinette tuff tonight, because too often we don't show people who have done truly heroic things and she has. jeff gardere, she's sort of a text book case how you should handle yourself in a case like this. >> she was scared the whole time at the end when she started crying, but she was able to maintain composure and connecting in a way that says you're not the only one who has pain. i have pain. i can feel your pain and therefore you need to trust me. so it wasn't like a psychologist, not to put down psychologists, but not like a psychologist giving them the psyche talk. this is a person who says i'm in pain, so are you, so you can believe me. this is coming from my heart. >> chris, not at any point was she really kind of looking to jump out a window and try to escape.
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she really seemed engaged with him. >> she was engaged with him. she was there for the long haul. he felt that. she shared her own experience with being suicidal, and having survived that. that gave him hope. this was an amazing commitment that she made and he felt that. there is no way he couldn't feel that, her genuine connection and it was just wonderful that the dispatcher recognized how helpful this was. she's the unsung hero in the background as well, allowing and participating in this amazing negotiation using antoinette. it was heart warming and it made a difference in this young man's life, as well as everybody that could have been affected by his behavior. >> i bet she'll keep in touch with him down the road. >> absolutely. >> a program note, antoinette tuff will be on tomorrow night. we're very much looking forward to meeting her. thanks for your reporting. up next, you've heard the expression senseless killing,
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tonight a story that is raising all kinds of troubling questions on two continents. the shooting death of christopher lane in the small oklahoma town of duncan gunned down while jogging, targeted by teenagers, 15, 16, 17. does are the suspects. two charged with first degree murder, the driver facing lesser charges. said one according to police quote we were bored and didn't have anything to do, so we decided to kill somebody. lane was gunned down while jogging. he lay dying in a ditch. the woman who found him online with 911 waiting for help. >> i hear no sirens. i see no lights. oh my gosh, how long is it going to be? >> ma'am, all i know is they're coming. i can't make them go any faster. i've got them on the way.
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>> if you don't hurry, he's gone. >> they are coming, ma'am. i can't -- >> okay. >> i can't make them come any faster. they are on the way. >> i know you can't but it's frustrating that you need somebody. i see them coming up the street. >> has he stopped breathing? >> has hi stopped breathing? yes, they say he has. >> just so sickening. lane came to oklahoma to play college baseball. tonight back in australia, his murder sparked calls for a tourist boycott of america. the fact is the people of duncan, oklahoma welcomed lane and are mourning his loss. his girlfriend, i spoke to her moments ago. first, how this all came to pass from "360's" randi kaye. >> reporter: in this town of 23,000, it could have been anyone and the people know it. it was just before 3:00 p.m. friday the middle of the afternoon, chris lane was out jogging along this road. that's when the police chief
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says the three suspects pulled up in their car behind him and opened fire, hitting chris once in the back. he staggered across the road and then fell to his knees but somehow he managed to get up and take a few more steps before collapsing for good. a woman saw him struggling and called 911. >> this young man -- he just fell over in the ditch and he's got blood on him. >> is he in the road way or ditch? no, he's in the ditch. he was standing in the road way and fell over and as i came by he fell over in the ditch. >> reporter: as they waited for an ambulance, chris lane started to turn blue. >> is he breathing? is he conscious? is he talking to you? >> he's not conscious. is he breathing? barely. >> reporter: he was pronounced dead at the hospital leaving investigators without a clue who killed him. all they learned from witnesses is it was a black car, perhaps a honda civic. police also figured whoever shot lane must have been familiar with the area since they took
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local roads and shortcuts to escape. investigators knew the mexican restaurant at the intersection had a security camera so quickly pulled the video. the camera showed a black car pulling into the restaurant parking lot around the time of the shooting then driving over to that hotel parking lot out of view of the security camera. the chief says the car stayed 11 minutes and left. hours passed with no sign of the suspects and no hint if they would kill again. then four hours after the shooting, the break investigators needed. >> at 7:05, we received a call from mr. johnson's residence, 911 call that said there is three juveniles here with guns. i think they want to kill somebody. >> reporter: officers in the area responded immediately and found the black car they were looking for in this church parking lot, across the street from mr. johnson's house. the man who had called them. the chief says the three suspects were inside the car. after officers spoke with them
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for awhile, they had enough information to arrest them. 15-year-old james edwards and 16-year-old chauncey luna were charged as adults with felony first degree murder. and michael jones, 17, was charged with the use of a vehicle and the discharge of a vehicle, an accessory after the fact. the two younger suspects didn't want to talk but the chief says the oldest one, jones, admitted it right away. it wasn't until two days later, though, when he offered up the details. they were chilling. >> he gave us his version, full disclosure on it. and said we were at the house. the young man run by the house. someone said there's our target. they got in the car, followed him and shot him. we were bored. >> reporter: bored? they did it for fun? >> that's it. >> reporter: a sport? >> that's right. >> reporter: killing for sport. it shocked even the most hardened of police here. but the surprise started to wear off as investigators looked closer at one of the alleged shooter's twitter accounts.
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just three days before the shooting, edwards posted that he and his friends were ready to take some lives. back in april, he tweeted, 90% on white people are nasty. michael jones told police they tossed the gun at an apartment complex in town, but when police searched for it, it was gone. they did find ammunition hidden under the hood with a shotgun tucked away under the spare tire. >> randi kaye joins us live from duncan, oklahoma. randi the suspects, the teenagers, what have you learned about them on the ground there? was there a motive here? was it totally random? >> reporter: it seemed to be random. they were looking to have some fun, and in their eyes, that meant killing someone. that was their idea of fun. we spoke with the police today and they said these guys come from broken homes, been in trouble before. one of the investigators
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recognized the suspect's car they were working from another case. we're learning more about them online. we mentioned the twitter account and online through special media we found this video i want you to look at on vine posted by james edwards. there you see him holding a shotgun pointing him at the camera, mugging for the camera. comfortable with that weapon in his hands. on james edward's facebook page. look at these pictures and you see he posted a picture of a handgun and on that table, that cash, that's 100 dollar bills spread out on that table. on facebook, we have a couple photos of edwards and also chauncey luna. it looks like they are talking on phones but it's wads of cash. anderson, there seems to be a theme about money and guns they seem to enjoy. i asked the chief today, i said are these guys part of a gang?
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are they involved with gangs in any way? he said he doesn't think so but no doubt they want to be gangsters, anderson. >> so sickening. sarah harper was christopher lane's girlfriend. they had been close for four years and just gotten back from a visit to australia a couple days before the shooting. sarah, i'm so sorry for your loss. i know that you and chris were together for four years. what was he like? >> he was the -- mostly the -- just the most amazing person i've ever met. he was the most genuine and kind-hearted guy and would do anything for anybody at any time and i'm just really -- made everyone feel special. >> how did you two meet? >> we met at school. we both played. i was golf and he was baseball.
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>> was baseball something that he loved? >> yeah, he -- he loved the competitiveness and anything and loved getting to play with so many great guys and it brought him overseas and he loved adventure aspect of that, as well. >> was coming to the united states something that he had wanted to do for a long time? >> yeah, i believe so, he wanted to travel, and so he loved any -- any route to living somewhere new and doing something new. he had big dreams of going and living in other places, as well. >> and obviously, chris' parents, i think you've been able to talk to them. how are they doing? how are they holding up?
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>> there is no way to describe what happened. i mean, it's the hardest thing you could ever imagine happening, and like there is still a lot of shock and disbelief and a lot of anger and sadness. it's just every emotion flooded in. >> he was -- i know he was visiting you on friday when he went for that run. i understand the whole neighborhood, obviously, is in shock, the whole community. this isn't the thing that usually happens where you are. >> no, we don't have anything like this ever happen here. we're a pretty boring town, really. i mean, there is the same -- everybody loves the friday night football games and just doing the everyday life, and everybody always runs that street, walks that street. my neighbors had been on it earlier in the day.
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it's amazing that something could happen like that in the middle of the day. a popular area of town. >> when you heard what some of these young men have said about why they did this, i mean, it's all just so senseless. >> yeah, it -- you can't make sense of it. it just -- so surreal that anybody could do something like this. we had only been back two days, not even, and something like this just happened, and it just doesn't make any sense. >> will you be flying to australia for the services? >> yes, i'll be -- my family and i will be there to say our good-byes and be with the family during this time.
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>> i'm glad that you'll all be able to be together with your family and his family. i know there is a memorial set up by chris' friends. we're putting that up on the screen. that's for anybody that wants to contribute. it started with a goal of $15,000, that has to be something of a good feeling to know that so many people are paying attention and so many people are outraged and just horrified by this and want to help. >> yeah, it's incredible how many people have reached out. it's touching and it's uplifting knowing that there are so many kind-hearted people in the world. even if they have never heard of him or knew him still want to help. i just know that he was an amazing person. that was taken away too soon and i'm so thankful to all the
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support and love and respect everyone has shown christopher and his family and my family and everybody and how this town has supported everything. we really appreciate it. >> i hope you know that so many people's thoughts and prayers are with you and your family and christopher and his family in this time and i wish you strength and peace in the difficult days ahead. >> thank you. for more information on that memorial fund, how you can donate go to i'll get address and put it up on my twitter page, as well. allegations in syria of a deadly chemical attack. the video is hard to watch and shocking. arwa damon joins us with the latest. plus, the price bradley manning will pay for his crimes. he faces up to 90 years in prison. today he learned his sentence. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing.
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syria that the regime fired rockets carrying chemical weapons killing and injuring hundreds of people. including many children. the regime calls the allegations baseless. i want to warn you video you'll see throughout the segment may be difficult for some to watch. if you need to turn away, now is the time to do it. i urge you to listen and hear the story and hear the reality of what's happening in syria. the videos were posted online by the opposition that claimed more than 1300 people were killed in the attack. as always, reporting on syria's civil war, more than 100,000 dead according at the un. cnn can't verify the videos. arwa damon spent a lot of time on the ground in syria for us and tonight reports from beirut. arwa, the images coming out of syria from this attack are just sickening. what is the latest you're hearing about it? >> reporter: they are really hard to look at. one leading opposition member put the death toll as high as 1300. i was speaking to a doctor
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earlier who said in his particular area he ran out of medicine within an hour. he could only remove the clothes, wash them and give them oxygen. what makes it heart-breaking and difficult to look at is so many victims are children. you see them on beds and makeshift clinics just grasping for air. other video shows bodies all over the floor, people barely able to walk through them. the opposition is saying this was a chemical attack carried out by the syrian government targeting areas to the east and southwest of the capital damascus itself. the government denying the allegations, but there is one thing that's very difficult to deny and that is that something horrendous took place in syria. >> yeah, this is video of people twitching on the floor, riting
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in agony, looks like dozens of bodies of young children lying in rows. all of this comes as u.n. inspectors are on the ground to inspect alleged prior use of chemical weapons. any worry the regime is going to allow inspectors access to the site of this attack? >> reporter: basically all lies as to whether or not the security counsel decides to task this team for looking into this particular attack. they went into specific locations they were going to be visiting. if that does happen, they would then need some sort of permission from the syrian government. they are guests of the government and would require some sort of coordination between them and rebel fighting forces, because these are areas in rebel control. one can only hope and assume they will try to gain access to these areas and figure out exactly what happened. anderson, too much happens in syria in this very mirky space with a lot of misinformation around it. >> arwa damon, thanks so much.
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the tragic story took the most bizarre turn yet today. the family of james dimaggio, hannah anderson's accused kidnapper who is expected of killing her brother and mother, has requested dna samples for paternity testing. they think dimaggio, who was killed in a shootout, could be hannah and ethan's father. a few weeks ago this seemed like a clear case. what's the latest? >> reporter: this is so true, anderson. this is a bizarre turn in the story. the request is coming from jim dimaggio's sister. she wants to know whether or not he's actually the father because he was so involved in the anderson family's life. as you can see, we are here in boulevard where the mother and brother passed away. what we don't know right now is how the family plans on dealing with this. >> we don't know if the family will allow this dna test to happen? >> reporter: no, i spent a lot
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of time with hannah anderson's maternal grandparents today and they said the focus needs to be on ethan and christina and we also heard from her great uncle and this is what he had to say. he had some fiery words. take a listen. >> what i would tell the dimaggio family, i would tell them to shut up with their accusations and implications until after the funeral. until after my precious tina and precious ethan are buried. the family members that your family murdered. that's what i would tell them. >> reporter: the grandparents also saying if you take a look at brett anderson, hannah and ethan east fatter and look at them, there is no doubt he is in fact their father. they also say they believe that christina was about six months pregnant with hannah before jim came into their life. so still a lot of questions from the one request, whether or not it happens, we'll wait and see.
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>> so horrible the family has to deal with this while they wait to bury their family. stephanie, appreciate the reporting. susan hendricks has a "360" news and business bulletin. a military judge sentenced bradley manning to 35 years in prison for leaking classified government documents. he was dishonorably discharged. manning was convicted last month on 20 charges, including violating the espionage act. the white house says beau biden, the son of joe biden successfully underwent a procedure at md anderson medical center in texas and is in quote great shape. biden was admitted to the world renowned cancer facility after feeling weak and disoriented after a family vacation. judge judy is the highest paid star on television, she takes home $47 million a year. >> appreciate it, susan. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] what if the next big thing, isn't a thing at all?
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we ran out of time for the "ridicu-list." before we go, the memorial fund set up in memory of murder victim christopher lane. a place to send donations for
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his family to travel to oklahoma and receive his body and take him back to melbourne. you see it up on the screen there. www.gofundme, one word ,.com slash 3 zktjc. i also posted"piers morgan livet now. this is piers morgan live. welcome to the viewers around the united states and worldwide. breaking news as we bring you the 911 call from the woman inside the building that told the man armed with an ak-47 into surrenderer. it's a heart-stopping tape and plays out in the span of a few minutes. her name is antoinette tuff. she's a bookkeeper and astonishingly calm. she spoke to brandon hill and